Stuff white people like (working class edition)
October 8th, 2008, by Andrew
Matthew Yglesias asks what my coauthors and I think of this article by George Packer on white working class voters in Ohio. (This is the same issue of the New Yorker where our book is briefly noted.)
I have a few thoughts on Packer’s article. First, it’s definitely a struggle for me to relate to the people interviewed there. For example, it says that Barbie Snodgrass used to buy 8 bags of groceries each week and now, “because of inflation,” only buys 4 bags. But the price of food can’t have doubled! And she presents going out “for a McDonald’s Dollar Meal” as chepaer than “spending seven dollars on a bag of potatoes and cooking at home.” First off, how big is that bag? Even in Manhattan, a 5-pound bag of potatoes costs a lot less than $7. Second, such a bag wil supply you with enough food for many many meals. I agree that a Happy Meal or whatever can be convenient, and I bet it’ll make the kids happy, but no way is it cheaper than cooking potatoes at home.
At some level, I can follow this–after all, here I am blogging at $0/hour, so I understand that not all activity is economically rational–but I have to admit that I don’t have a great framework for making sense of this person’s attitudes. (If I’d been conducting the interview, I would’ve asked Snodgrass how she could think that cooking a bag of potatoes is more expensive than going to McDonalds. But that probably just means that I don’t know the first thing about interviewing.)
OK, enough of that. For my discussion of the voting data, see here. Richer voters remain Republican, and that’s true even if you restrict the analysis to whites:

And here are the trends. David Park made this graph of what’s been happening since the 1950s with the rich-poor voting gap (the difference between Republican vote share among the upper third of income, minus the Republican vote share among the lower third) in Presidential elections. The gray dots represent all voters, the black dots represent whites only (yes, I know, they should be white dots…).

The rich-poor voting gap among whites has in recent elections been a bit below its 1970s-1990s peak, but it’s far from zero. Yes, it’s different rich and poor people than before, but it’s still there. It’s a mistake to think there was a past golden era of class-based voting. Geographic factors were important in voting decades ago, and they are now as well.
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5 Comments
Add your own1. Matthew Yglesias » &hellip | October 9th, 2008 at 10:34 am
[...] among the white working class in Ohio, I wondered what Andrew Gelman thought. He was kind enough to respond with these [...]
2. janinsanfran | October 9th, 2008 at 10:59 am
So why the dip in Bush preference somewhere between middle income and rich for everyone except whites in 2004? Any thoughts?
3. razib | October 11th, 2008 at 1:45 am
i had the same thought about the mcdonald’s thing.
4. World of Science News : B&hellip | October 11th, 2008 at 11:25 am
[...] far higher than their median), but the professions have non-remunerative ideals. See this post on Andrew Gelman’s site for [...]
5. The executive class suppo&hellip | October 11th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
[...] far higher than their median), but the professions have non-remunerative ideals. See this post on Andrew Gelman’s site for [...]
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